Episode #48: Why You Can't Seem to Lose Weight with Melinda Jacobs
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Hello my friend. I am [00:01:00] so beyond honored to have our next guest for this conversation. There are so many of us that are walking around, maybe a little dazed, maybe a little confused, perhaps wondering. Why I cannot let go of these last 10 pounds regardless of what I'm doing in the physical realm and maybe even in the spiritual realm.
My friend Melinda Jacobs has quite a few answers for us, and I have a feeling it might surprise you in one way, but I also have a feeling you're going to have this natural knowing, and I sense that there's gonna be quite a few. Pause in this conversation because I will go forth and tell you. Right now I have worked personally with Melinda and the work has been beyond transformative, and so I am vibrating so high.
[00:02:00] Right now knowing that I get to share her wisdom with my community. And so beyond my personal experience, which we will absolutely get into in this conversation, I wanna share a little bit about her and her bio.
So Melinda Jacobs’ life mission is to empower transformation personally and globally as an international intuitive coach, certified clinical hypnotherapist, speaker, teacher, author, ministerial student licensed practitioner Met a physician and massage therapist. Melinda has worked professionally in the healing arts since 1988 with people in 46 countries around the world. Her intuitive coaching practice. Quantum Therapeutics specializes in empowering people to heal through and beyond trauma. In [00:03:00] addition, she teaches how to develop intuition and navigate the world as a highly sensitive being.
Her unique, threefold approach helps people, one, resolve past trauma. Two, learn more effective tools, and three, integrate the many aspects of self. As a result, clients develop deep compassion for themselves, get clarity about their purpose, and step into their best lives. Amen. I'm raising my hand as a very happy client.
Melinda has studied extensively with meta physicians. Spiritual healers, practitioners of science of mind, and centers of spiritual living counselors and many others. She holds certifications in clinical hypnotherapy, emotional freedom coaching, cellular release therapy, regression therapy. [00:04:00] Massage and craniosacral therapy and has done specialty training in addiction counseling.
She is a yoga instructor and has been a reiki master for over 30 years by combining her heightened sixth sense and unique trainings. Melinda offers a unique perspective on people's internal and external relationships and how to achieve a more self-realized and fulfilling life. You understand why I wanted this woman to be on our show?
Right? So, Melinda, welcome
Melinda Jacobs: Michelle Fox. Thank you so much for having me. It's truly an honor. You know, that is not a 32nd elevator pitch, is it?
Michelle Fox: Well, and to encompass all that you are and all that you could be. There's no way we could even like get that on the written word or on the paper. So [00:05:00] I just so appreciate you sharing what you have with us because I know it informs the wisdom that you bring forth to me in my life and that we're about to dig into in this conversation.
So I have quite a few questions, but first, just so my audience can get to know maybe. Some of the sillier sides of you. I would love to invite you to play a rapid fire game with me. Are you open? Yes, please. Oh, yay. Oh yes, please. I had a feeling you'd be one of my playmates. Bring on the silly. Okay, so when I say sweet, salty, or savory, which one comes up for you?
Sweet. Mm-hmm. With all of the beautiful, spiritual and supportive. Pieces that you bring to the world, there's also that business piece that you need as well. And so with that, this question goes to that part, which is inbox [00:06:00] zero or inbox 10,000.
Melinda Jacobs: Can I say 643?
Michelle Fox: Definitely.
Melinda Jacobs: You can. Definitely not a zero. And thank God it's not
Michelle Fox: 10,000. Oh my goodness. Yes. Yeah. Last but not least, would you be willing to share one of your favorite childhood memories in the kitchen?
Melinda Jacobs: Oh my gosh. Okay.
Do you want the mischievous side of me or do you want just the, you know, daily. Wow. That was an interesting, that thing that happened and I now understand why I have such germaphobe issues.
Michelle Fox: Well, when you put it like that, we need to hear both share. Yeah.
Melinda Jacobs: Give it to us. So, so I have recently come to appreciate my mother as, as.
This person who was [00:07:00] so beautifully and wonderfully ill-equipped because she had three highly intelligent children, were talking high IQs and we were bored. That's not a good combination. And so my brother, one of my brothers and I, we would constantly find ways to torture my mother. Oh, And, and so one day my brother found a a windup, tarantula, and he wound up, put it in the microwave, closed the door, and we went to our respective rooms and our, my mom came home and putting away the groceries.
Within a few moments we heard the ensuing scream, so Mm, yeah, there, there
Michelle Fox: was that. I, I'm Feeling Trauma for your Mother right now.
Melinda Jacobs: I, I have since apologized. We, we have since gone back apologized like, wow. But to appreciate it from, oh, this poor woman, having these [00:08:00] very intelligent children who would find extraordinary creative ways of entertaining ourselves, misdirected intelligence is not a good thing.
the second thing is, you know, the, the five second rule. And, and back in the day, I mean, this had to have been in the seventies when there was carpet in the kitchen, just absolutely gross. And I will never forget the one pork chop that fell out of the pan onto the floor and it immediate went back in the pan.
And ever since I'm like, mm-hmm.
Michelle Fox: Ew.
Melinda Jacobs: Ew. Yeah. It's a very big cringe factor there. So
Michelle Fox: there you go. Oh, that's kind of funny. But just for clarity, when you're saying never again, is it never again to pork chops or never again to
Melinda Jacobs: Never again really trusting. What is that seasoning that's on my meat? It's, it's just very, I'm always a little suspect of what is that really?
Is that really [00:09:00] pepper, is that really paprika or is that something that came off the floor?
Michelle Fox: is it fair to guess that maybe you, are more responsible for cooking your own food these days then?
Melinda Jacobs: that's probably very true.
Michelle Fox: Oh, well thank you for sharing. You're welcome. Thank you for asking. Oh, wow. Yes. And to bridge, I. I even feel like I'm tripping over myself in my head. 'cause I don't know that there is like a, a bridge from the silly to going straight into the trauma. Perhaps you see it differently, but when I talk to my clients, I could talk until my face turns blue about the nutrients we need to put in our body and how we put together our meals and the meal planning.
However, what I have learned over this past year is that there's just a wall that my clients tend to come up against. 'cause it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:10:00] Michelle, I hear you talking about food. I'm so-called doing all the things you're telling me, but I can't seem to lose the weight and I feel stuck in my life.
And I, you know, they don't say it this way, but I put everybody before me, like I don't have my own needs. However, in my, just the little bit of work I've done with you, I've seen very quickly how you have been able to go and dive deep, clear out some trauma, and that's actually opened up a whole new world for me, and we'll talk about that in a little bit.
But how do you approach that as far as the eating the self-image, not being able to lose the weight? I know we've talked about trauma, but. Can you just say a little bit more about that? My gosh,
Melinda Jacobs: we only have 30 minutes, right? I know, I know. Let me condense that down. So, so what I know from my own experience, I [00:11:00] had an, an eating disorder and was in hospitalized when I was 20, and so I'm very, very familiar with the ins and outs of difficult relationships with food, difficult relationships with body image, difficult relationships.
Period. and so how that translates to food, body weight eating nourishing our bodies supporting ourself is, is we tend to bump into ourselves. We bump into. The part of us that maybe was neglected and is, I'm, I'm using my words for myself. This is my own story that still having a little bit of a temper tantrum in the corner, stomping her feet, digging in her heels, and just waiting for someone outside of me to show up and be loving and kind.
It can show up that way. with the food, one of the phrases that I use with my people is, who's in the cookie? Who's in the [00:12:00] snack, whatever the, you know, the preferred snack is, I had a client who would have this late night eating habit that she just could not get beyond, and I asked that question. So, and I think it was a hot dog or something.
It was just some obscure food item. That would not be a, a nutritional craving. So this is an emotional craving and I think that's an important thing to dissect and, and peel apart is, is this a nutritional craving or is this an emotional craving? And so a lot of our cravings are emotionally and trauma informed and based on that.
And so I asked her, so who's in the hot dog? And she stopped and she's like, oh my gosh. When I was a little kid, my uncle used to come home late, late, late at night, and he was really, really drunk, and we would have this really intimate, close conversation that just she felt seen. She felt heard. [00:13:00] She loved her uncle so much, and he died years and years and years ago.
But the habit was to connect with him through this ritual of midnight. Snacking on hot dogs. And so the suggestion was, okay, beautiful. I'm, I'm so glad we know who's in the hotdog now let's make an altar. Let's bring him back into the space so you can relate to him directly instead of relating to him through the food.
So to answer your question, how do I do this? Is I just listen and I really am looking for. What's underneath the behavior and, and whether it's my wiring or my intuition, I don't know. I just have this ability to really feel into it, to see it. There's like this, something that it's, it's like, it just makes such perfect sense to me that I idea that it's so much easier to see the forest when you're above it rather than when you're in the trees.
And I [00:14:00] get, I get that kind of image for people when they're talking about their food, their struggles. And, and I know that we're just collectively as a society, we don't really do a very good job teaching ourselves, teaching our children how to more healthfully be present to deeper. Feelings, difficult feelings.
We, we've gotten pretty bypassing about it. It's like it's all gotten, it's all good. And I'm like, is it, is it really all good? Like all of it really. I'm just not sure I can buy into that. And it's, you know, the get over it and, oh, that was so long ago. But the thing is, is those experiences from our childhood, from last week, from the pandemic, they get buried alive within us.
They're still there and they're, I always [00:15:00] think of them as, like, I've used this with some clients. If a child came to you dirty, hungry and was crying and said, would you please help me? Would you slam the door on that child? And everybody's like, oh my gosh, no, I would never do that. And it's like, okay, so why are you doing it to yourself? Because these parts of us that we're bumping into. The parts that were struggling in childhood or didn't have food, like there's a lot of food insecurity that's coming up. We're bumping into parts of ourselves that had an experience in the past that may not be happening now, but that part does not realize that times have changed, that they're no longer living in that moment.
And in fact, that part is. In that time, in that space, in that dimension, still having her Groundhog Day, their Groundhog Day again and again and again. There's no food in the house, [00:16:00] or mom and dad are yelling at the dinner table, you know, and so there's all these things that contribute to, I just wanna hot dog at 11 o'clock, and I don't know
Michelle Fox: why.
Mm. This is a beautiful space to insert. A little bit about my experience because as you're speaking, I'm thinking of an uncle who I had that kind of beautiful relationship with and he was at the time one of the only adults that I felt like could really see me. And he was really excited about teaching me math.
And he's the one who taught me how to read a clock. 'cause I'm looking at the clock on my wall over there, and I just always remember being so excited to see that uncle. Yet there was another uncle who, you know, I've never spoken about it publicly, and there's also still people that it might affect.
So I will just say another uncle who harmed me when I was at the age of five. And after my work with you, I found it. [00:17:00] Fascinating, like with a capital F. Fascinating that I have lost my taste for alcohol and I did not come to you for that. Like I've never seen myself as a person with a drinking problem and or, you know, I've, I don't think I've had many issues around alcohol, but something in our work together, which I'm really hoping you'll help me unpack, helped me.
release it. Like I've been to four parties since you and I have been together, and it's not even been a question. It's like, where's the sparkling water? Where's the regular water? It's not even like any of the headshots that has happened in the past of, you know, am I gonna drink tonight? Do I not like nothing?
I'm just like, it's just not in my sphere anywhere. So, One. I imagine because of certain questions you asked, I imagine a lot of women with childhood sexual trauma come to find you. And then two, would you be willing to break down maybe what happened in our session that perhaps [00:18:00] contributed to this, my lack of desire for
Melinda Jacobs: alcohol lack?
Absolutely. So first, thank you for sharing that. That's, that's a big, big thing to come out in this, in this platform to share that. And, and I know that many of your listeners have, I'm sure had some kind of similar experience, as have I. And so, you know, when things happen, That we don't have the capacity to process, we don't have the understanding, we don't have the awareness, we don't have the words.
for a lot of people for that, that kind of violation. As a child, I. I don't actually call that sexual abuse because a child's mind doesn't put it in that category. As an adult, we can call it that, but to a child, their experience is, I got touched in a way that felt [00:19:00] confusing or just not right to me in some way.
Like there's a sense of that that wasn't okay, but I don't have the language or the capacity to understand and so, so we don't process it. Sometimes, oftentimes, many, many people, I've worked with thousands of women, and so this is a very common thing, is that it just wasn't safe to talk about or it got dismissed, and so we shut it down and I think that's a lot of people's experience is we are not victim advocates in our country.
We are victim blamers and shamers. It's unfortunate, but it's true right now. And so I think of that unresolvedness of that experience, like a thorn in the paw. Right. There's something in there, doesn't belong there. and now we're gonna have to walk a little wonky. We're gonna have to walk with a little bit of a limp just to not bump it.[00:20:00]
And over time our compensation of that thorn gets more creative and more elaborate for the majority of the people that I've worked with who have had similar experiences. And it's surprising how common that is really. To look at the child aspect of ourselves who figured out a way to walk with that thorn in a way to minimize the ouch of it through the use of food is quite creative, quite clever, and I'm always like clever little girl.
Oh my gosh, you were so smart to be able to tell my 20 year old self. Wow, you were drowning. A sea of unspoken trauma from your childhood and you learned how to binge and purge to get you through that [00:21:00] time of your life. Good job. I am so glad. That you figured out a way to survive until we had better resources, we had better understanding, we had better support, we had better tools.
Like, thank you for figuring that out. And I don't know very many people who have thanked their little ones for picking up a destructive habit.
Michelle Fox: Oh yes. We're in new territory right now. I, I'm leaning in. Hmm.
Melinda Jacobs: And so to, to shift that relationship is a very powerful healing. And so here's what happens, and this is why cellular release is such an interesting tool, and this is not the first time I've heard this.
I had the same experience. First time I experienced it, I walked away a non-smoker, not one little bit of my clearing had anything to do with smoking. And so what happens is when we [00:22:00] clear the cause, when we take the thorn out of the paw, we don't have to limp anymore. We don't have to compensate anymore, and so the need for the compensation just disappears.
Now, that's not everybody's experience, but it's pretty amazing to know that that's possible. I worked with another woman who had 10 children and had lost like 150 pounds, you know, some exorbitant, triple digit number of weight with 10 children. Oh my gosh. But she couldn't kick the caffeine. She's like, I have tried and I have white knuckled and I can't, just, like you said in your, you know, the mind trash is like, oh, I need to give this up.
And part of us is just clinging on like a cat on the screen. I don't wanna give up. Mm-hmm. And we did a little bit of clearing. She said, caffeine's gone just like that. And so I think the power of recognizing [00:23:00] the cause that's underneath the habit. The habit's not the problem. The eating is not the problem.
The cravings is not the problem. It's the thorn in the paw. Let's get the thorn out and let's stand up. Right? Let's walk a little more firmly in ourselves and in our power. And so for some people that journey is a very long journey. For some people like you, it's just like, boop. I'm ready. I was just ready to let that go and I just needed that one thorn and I don't, I have no idea.
I don't have your file in front of me and I forget, thank goodness. Once I close a file, that information's not in my head, so I don't even know what we talked about.
Michelle Fox: That's so healthy, and I believe I came to you originally because of the weight loss piece because I'm like, here I am a
Culinary nutritionist. I know how to eat. I know that I need my sleep. I know that I need to [00:24:00] exercise every day and I've been doing these things and yet the weight kept climbing up. And I heard you on a podcast with my good friend Jennifer Roth, her podcast Manifesting Clarity, love her. And you had mentioned the weight loss piece, and I went to your website and I saw the weight loss, and I'm like, well, maybe Melinda has some answers.
And sure enough, I don't think we even really talked about weight loss either. However, along with the alcohol has come, just a natural releasing of the pounds. Like I've lost six pounds already since, since it's been a maybe a month since we've
Melinda Jacobs: worked together. Wow. Congratulations. That's fantastic.
Michelle Fox: Thank you.
Yeah, and I truly haven't made many changes except for that I am more clear on who I am and. That I am worthy, which it was another fun surprise. I didn't realize that I was struggling with that myself because I've been helping other clients with worthiness [00:25:00] issues. I didn't know that maybe that was the mirror that I needed to see as well.
And I believe the work that you and I did together, you gave me the word trust, that I trust myself. And so that's what I've been walking with. And so I thank you, Melinda. It's been welcome, amazingly healing. You're so
Melinda Jacobs: welcome and, and for all the people that I've supported in the weight loss journey, what I think is interesting is, and this is where the, this is where the rub is, and this is the challenge and it's, it's a, it's a big paradox is how do we enter a healing process knowing that weight loss is the goal and not make it about weight loss because.
There is this subtle, not subtle self-hatred that comes with, I will love myself when I. I will respect and take care of myself when I deem myself lovable, [00:26:00] and it's at this number. And so that particular mindset is a little bit of a challenge and, and I've seen many people get to the place where they let go of the need for the body to be any different than it is, and they start.
Loving themselves right where they're at. And that's, you know, have you seen those finger traps where you put your fingers in and if you pull back really fast, clinches down, right? It's like, I need to lose weight. I need to lose weight. That's us pushing away from our own self-acceptance. How do we learn in a society that does not. Honor a woman's journey of maturing and coming into her wisdom and change natural changes that occur with our body temple. How do we learn in a, in this society to accept ourselves in our fullness, in our allness, in our little, in our hips, in our roundness? [00:27:00] How do we learn when society says, you're only lovable, valuable.
If you're younger than 30, if you're less than this weight, that is an uphill journey, and I'm here for it. I'm here to walk that with people because, I'm kind of done. With people, with trying to twist myself into some mold to be acceptable, to some amorphous being collective outside of myself.
Mm-hmm. And yet, great. It is a billion dollar industry around weight loss and how much of that is actually geared at self-acceptance, recognizing fat shaming. Beginning to understand every body is beautiful. Yeah. I'm all about that.
Michelle Fox: And as we're talking about this, I feel like we should probably take a step back.
'cause my friends who are [00:28:00] listening and they're like, wait, what did Michelle do with Melinda? And what I came to you for was the cellular release therapy. So can you just touch a little bit about what that is and how that works?
Melinda Jacobs: Absolutely. So it's done in a relaxed state, and what I love about this process is what I'm doing is I am talking to the data keeper, the subconscious mind.
It has all life data, everything that an individual has heard, seen, felt, thought, feared, believed, experienced. Its data. And it's here in our cellular memory, and there's some questions and, and I sit on the fence. Sometimes there's some questions about the data itself. It's like, is this past life data?
Could be, is this my soul's journey? Data through lifetimes could be, is this familial? It's been passing down through d n a coding. Could be. And so regardless of [00:29:00] where the information and data came from, if it's here with us, it's ours to deal with. So, hats off and just standing ovation to every person that's listening.
That has been the person to break family patterns. I, I work with a lot of those individuals. They're the first person to see the cycle of abuse, to see the cycle of dysfunction and say no more. Mm-hmm. Not, not happening anymore. At least not in that form. I'm gonna do my inner work. I'm gonna heal it. And so I love this work because you do not have to be in the feeling state in order for clearing to happen.
That does not mean that at some point you need to learn how to feel your feelings and be present to them without eating them away. That's a skillset that I help people develop, but the process is asking the subconscious about experiences. It is not I. Memory recall process. This is [00:30:00] not a past life regression kind of where you're getting information about past lives and all that exciting stuff.
I don't do that kind of regression because the conscious mind gets a little too excited about the details and the information and the ego grabs onto it, and that's not actual healing. So we're just sifting through experiences that my client will tell me about. And that through the conversation, I'll, I'll gather and I'll get some more information.
And then I ask the subconscious, can you release and clear these experiences? And has there been more than one, more than 10, more than a hundred, more than a thousand, more than a million times that you felt not good enough. Or that you feel like you have failed at your health goals. Like those are really common things, or that you've experienced self-hatred or that someone has criticized your body.
Like we, we just hold [00:31:00] volumes of data. Hmm. And some of it doesn't feel good, and so the subconscious will give us a yes or no. That's through a finger gesture and. This is a permission-based process. 'cause I don't know, Michelle, what's keeping you safe, stable, and functional. I have no idea what that need for alcohol was for you.
And consciously, we only know four to 8% I. Of all the data, that's not a lot. And so when we can go to the data keeper and go sift through all the data, we can get a lot of thorns out of the paw. We can get so much so that the inner world, the nervous system feels more settled, more grounded. In addition to the cellular release, I also teach skill sets 'cause that's important with this work.
I also do emotional integration. We meet the different parts of ourself, which is important to this work. But just to address the trauma is huge for most people and, [00:32:00] and I often say that what I do with cellular release is I start where most talk therapy stops. Most talk therapy. We, we understand our childhoods.
We understand the, the messages and why they're not true, but part of us still holds onto it. It's like, Nope, that's pretty much true. That's what I experienced. So that's my truth. But the truth of our being is we're pure potentiality. That's it. We're pure potentiality. Anything other than that is probably a limitation or a distortion of the truth of our being.
And so I'm just here helping people sort through that data, asking the subconscious, can you release and clear this getting a yes or no? Once the subconscious says yes, I give a directive. I tell it to release and clear. It's long and boring as you know. And, and so we can address hundreds and thousands and millions of [00:33:00] experiences in one session, and for a lot of us, it takes multiple sessions.
I always get excited when people like you are just like, oh my God, I just gave up alcohol. And I'm like, that's fantastic because it's possible. I love that you're sharing what's possible. One hit wonders. It's possible for a lot of us,
Michelle Fox: not to say, I won't be coming back to you, you know, down the road for something else.
Right, right. But for now,
Melinda Jacobs: but for now, it feels amazing. Yeah. And so, so with weight loss, I generally tell people, you know, really commit to this, invest in you and let's get some really deep clearing done. Three to five sessions, we can get a lot done. If there's been a lot of violation, if there's been a lot of abuse or neglect.
It takes some time, but as you experienced, you didn't have to talk for days and days and months and weeks and years about. Giving up alcohol, and that's the beauty. I think that we're here to exponentially grow and heal, to catch up with the [00:34:00] exponential changes that are happening on the planet. And so tools like Cellular release are coming available so that we can do volumes of work in a much more condensed time. Did that answer
Michelle Fox: your question? It absolutely did. And I already know I have friends leaning in like, oh, where can I find Melinda? And we'll of course link all that in the show notes and I'll ask you in a moment. Mm-hmm. But the first question that I would love to ask because I also know that they're feeling this, is how would someone know?
And actually I'll just. Keep it personal. So how will I know if this is an emotional craving or a food craving as you talked about before? What would be some maybe things I could look out
Melinda Jacobs: for that? Right. The body's never going to naturally crave a toxin.
Michelle Fox: Oh, say that again. For the people in the back,
Melinda Jacobs: [00:35:00] the body will never crave something that. Is not a natural substance. It's not gonna crave a chemical, it's not going to crave anything that would be outside of a natural nature-based meal plan. I mean, it's, it, it is that simple and sugar has been shown to be the number one most addictive substance on the planet. Like that's, and and I say that knowing that after we get off, I'm probably gonna go get a Starbucks chai, you know?
So I am not all the way there, and so I think that we need to hold it. Hold our healing and hold our humanity gently. Give ourselves a lot, a lot, a lot of grace and, and other ways that we can know that it's an emotional craving is that I just ate, I hear this all the time. I just ate [00:36:00] and I'm still hungry.
I'm like, I don't know that that's physical hunger, and I don't know that most of us really even know what physical hunger feels like.
Michelle Fox: Oh, that's
Melinda Jacobs: Right. I'm surprised when I feel my stomach rumble. I'm like, oh. And that's not a sensation I feel often we should feel that three times a day or maybe, you know, or a couple times depending on how you're nourishing your body.
and so there is a chemical craving. The body will crave sugar, but once you're off of it, that craving does go away. But there's a detox process, and I think that's the challenging piece is how do we support ourselves when one person in the family system says, I don't wanna do this anymore, and everyone else doesn't change.
Oof. A little bit of a challenge.
Michelle Fox: I get that one a lot with meal planning. Yes. It's like, well, that's. Yes, Michelle, I'll release gluten, but my husband would [00:37:00] never do that. So I have to cook two meals and I'm like, oh no. Like let's find ways that we can make this work for everybody. Right,
Melinda Jacobs: right. Yes. And I think gentle invitations into can we all up level our health?
And I and, and you, you just mentioned such a powerful point that a lot of people's health goals and health journey. Get, I'm not a fan of the word sabotaged, but usurped, the rug gets pulled out of them because it puts everyone else around them into a choice point. Do you wanna get healthier? Do you wanna get healthier?
And a lot of people don't. And it's not to say they don't wanna be healthier, they don't wanna go through the discomfort of meeting themselves. Looking at all those things that fed into this habit, or this [00:38:00] craving, or this food or this substance. Do you wanna know who's in my chai? Do you know what's in my chai?
here's why I have a hard time giving up chai. Chai tell me, and I have struggled with this and for people who've listened to me before, you know this is the bane in my existence, is Starbucks chai. It's addictive 'cause it's got sugar in it. So there's a chemical, there's a physiological addiction. Okay, I, I acknowledge that.
Here's my emotional addiction. I recently last year found out I have autism and so I feel a little disconnected and sometimes a lot of disconnected from most of humanity. It's hard for me to feel really that deep, intimate connection. I get that through my chai. Oh, the people at the the baristas know me.
They're like, oh, how are you? I will bring my cats with me and they get to see my cats, and it's this very deep, intimate, I feel connected. I feel [00:39:00] seen. When I go get my chai. So
Michelle Fox: that
Melinda Jacobs: makes so much sense. So looking at the habits around what people are doing and eating and, and asking yourself, how do I feel as I'm eating this?
What is what's happening around me? It's not the food. It's everything that's happening around, there's a connection, there's a celebration, there's comfort, there's, you know, a sense of a companion. Oh my gosh, the number of people. It was like, food's my best friend. At the end of the day, food's always there for me, and I get that.
But our best friends are not going to be destructive to our health, to our wellbeing. That's not a good friend. Hmm. Did I answer your question about how would we know if it's an emotional versus a physical craving?
Michelle Fox: Yes. And more. My heart is [00:40:00] so filled from your wisdom and your compassion and your love.
Thank you so much for showing up for us today and, and bringing your full self and. I literally could talk to you another two hours. I know this because we've done this before. I know, right? And I want more. However, to be respectful of your time and, and of our listeners, I know people are like, okay, Michelle, get to it.
Where can we find her? Where can we find her? So where can people find
Melinda Jacobs: you? So my website is quantum therapeutics.com. And you can also find me on YouTube. I have some old videos and some newer videos. Melinda Jacobs, c c h t is my YouTube channel handle. And then for those of you who are into meditation and visualization, I'm on insight timer.
Melinda Jacobs and find me on Insight Timer and I do have some [00:41:00] weight loss, meditations and visualizations where we imagine and, and love on the excess weight as, as a form of protection. And then imagining unzipping it like it's a suit and you can just feel the heaviness falling away. Maybe you still need it.
You're not quite ready to be out in the world, and maybe you're ready to walk out into the world without it. So I also offer some visualizations that kind of help and support that journey.
Michelle Fox: will be heading over there before I go to sleep tonight. You have my word. How amazing. Oh my goodness. Well, is there anything else you wanna add before we close?
Melinda Jacobs: I do. I just wanna say that these are challenging times. These are unprecedented times. We have never in our, in our collective history, been so emotionally synced up because of the internet. We've [00:42:00] never been more informed about what's happening around the world. And for those of us who are sensitive, Please be gentle with yourselves, beloveds, please.
it is a very, very stormy, energetic world that we walk into every single day, and whether you listen to the news or whether you're having conversations of what's happening out there politically, socially, economically, it's stormy out there. And so just be gentle about how you're comforting yourselves. And sit in the question mark of don't rip away the whoopy. Don't try to give up something. Instead, turn your attention to what could I do Also, So for me, I'm looking for where also can I find that connection that I get through my Starbucks. Because once I [00:43:00] have that connection, my body's going to like yours naturally drop away the need for it because I have something else that's much more effective.
So my message is, is be gentle. Be kind. Jacobs. You are welcome.
Michelle Fox: Michelle Fox.
You are listening to this podcast, which means either you or somebody that, you know, and love is likely going through perimenopause and or full blown menopause. And I am so excited to share with you
That I recently published a digital guide entitled. Is it hot in here or is it just me? Seven steps to dramatically reduce your hot flashes through the power of nutrition. And I wrote this book with you in mind, my friend, because it took me some time to figure out the answers to heal [00:44:00] my own menopausal symptoms, like hot flashes and night sweats and tummy bloat.
But I got here and I have figured it out and now I am thrilled to be able to share it with you. And so if you too are struggling and want the quick answers to stop struggling,
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Michelle Fox: Thanks so much for listening to Nourish. Have you been driving, doing laundry or walking around the neighborhood? Sweet. I've got show notes for you. Hop on over to Michelle [00:45:00] fox.com forward slash podcast. When you are ready. I will let you know that on the page, you will find resources to support what you just learned on today's show. And then of course you can grab some health supportive freebies as well.
If you enjoy this episode, I would be honored. If you would leave a review on whichever podcast platform you are listening on. It will help me with my mission to build healthier communities. One person at a time and it will help you because you will be part of that mission.
I'll be back next week and I encourage you to keep showing up for yourself and know that you and your health matter. Big love.
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